New guy from AZ

Hi everyone, my name might throw you off I’m not a pothead, I just work at a pizza restaurant, I’m in the middle of nowhere, Arizona (I know that narrows it down a lot doesn’t it :rolleyes:), I drive a 09 scion xb (hence Toasted) with the shocker xl horns on it. I got everything wired up almost the way I want it but it works for me currently so I might just keep it this way. I’ll post pictures of the setup when I get a chance, but I can describe it for now.

The train horn is currently wired to my steering wheel but with a 5 pin relay that has a normally closed (N.C.) and normally open (N.O.) pin. That is so the normal electric horn I have can be used and I don’t need to wire up another switch. That relay is wired to a LED lighted switch that is powered from the ignition, so you need the ignition on or the engine started to switch from the electric horn to the train horn solenoid (no accidents that way, no key = only regular horn). The horn trumpets, solenoid, airtank, and compressor are all mounted under the spare tire outside the vehicle together. The only tank I could fit is a 2 gallon tank with 3/8 inch openings on the ends so the trumpets aren’t getting all the air they need as fast as they should.

I managed to get a sweet deal (at the time, don’t know about now though) on the air compressor I was going to buy a Viair 350c but the shop couldn’t get one as the warehouse they deal with ran out. They did hook me up with a 380c from a pair that another buyer only wanted one of, so they sold it to me for same price as the 350 (at the time $40 savings). The air compressor is wired with another relay between the pressure switch (viair 110psi - 145psi sealed) that relay is hooked up after the 5 pin relay in the front of my car. So turn on the car, flip a switch, two relays turn on and if needed the air tank gets filled and let the scares begin. Also since I’m in Arizona I have a 175psi blow off valve on the tank since in the summer the heat will cause the pressure to rise in the tank and stress the steel more then it would normally get stressed.

The few things I might want to do is add an extra manual compressor switch, so the compressor doesn’t turn on half way through a blast. The setup is pretty stealth you can only see it if you’re behind me in traffic and you know what to look for. Now after all that you’re probably wondering what else I want to do to the wiring other then the switch? Well it’s a work in progress as I’m waiting for the parts to come in, but I’m going to try and make a wireless switch for the solenoid so I don’t need to be in my car to blast it and can walk away from the scene without being noticed, since the tank will empty but not fill up till I want it to. So there will be two ways to toot my own horn. Plus it’ll be easier to find my car in a parking lot if I just follow the horn. But that’s a major work in progress as I’m trying to tie it in with a FedSig PA300 so I can have a wireless PA mic and train horn blaster in an All-in-one pocket-able setup, and that’s a whole other mess I gotta deal with.

Within the next week I’ll get some pictures up and a few diagrams on how I wired the whole thing up, I would post the diagrams now but my scanner is on the fritz.:frowning: But lets just say there’s a few rolls of wire running all over my car for this setup. The best part is that while I was getting parts, the guys at the local checker auto didn’t know what the hell I was talking about. SPST relay with 5 pins? you mean like for the air conditioner? no like the generic cube ones I can get at radioshack which is a 60 mile round trip for me. The guys even asked another customer who they knew about it and he said they haven’t made those since the seventies and my best bet would be to run an extra switch and another horn button, and that I don’t know what I’m doing and I should listen to them. Well I showed them, scared some of their customers as well too :D.

So far I love’em, the local cops hate them but I haven’t gotten pulled over yet because the restaurant I work at feeds just about every cop in the county at some point in the year so they look the other way on somethings for us workers. So many warnings and so little tickets for us :cool:.

I know TL : DR :wink:

wow, so welcome to the forum…lol
id love to see some pics n build pics… especially of the wireless pa…

I know I know I talk/type too much.:slight_smile:

Well those pics for the PA are going to take a while I have a mount to fabricate for the speaker, another one for my amp, pa system, whatever else I want to add to my car and modify a hard wired microphone to a wireless setup. I’m replacing the foam shelf over my spare tire with a home fiberglassed one that will have more space. Unfortunately I’m waiting on a lot of parts to come in from Chinese sellers on ebay since they were the only ones with the hardware I need so it’s going to be a few weeks for the wireless stuff to come in and for me to hack it all up and make it work right. But I’ll post pics throughout the whole ordeal, maybe get some good critiques and advice (more like keeping my sanity, since I want to leave the remote trigger as a surprise for my coworkers :D). When it’s all said and done I will have a video of the whole setup, though it’ll be with my phone so no guarantee on the quality.

Tomorrow I’ll have layout pics to post, but for now I have the wiring diagram finally uploaded. The red is positive, black is ground, blue is key off/engine off, green turns on when the ignition and an switch are both on, when green is on blue is off and vise versa.

nice. i have a whelen siren/pa kit but took it off cuz of the penalties u get if caught with it…lol… i think i may sell it

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Welcome to the forum and looking forward to the pics.

Ok here’s a bad setup picture, everything is under the car and the compressor is about a inch or so to the right of the driver side rear wheel mud flap, so if I run something over it’s not going to hit the compressor unless I’m turning fast. Also the top of the picture is where the rear bumper begins and the bottom of it is towards the front of the car.

Everything comes to about the same height as the bottom bracket of the suspension and is a bit higher then the exhaust pipe (not sure really as I can’t measure it properly when the car is on ramps. I know I don’t scrape on the exhaust so the tank’s water drain is safe, as I haven’t and won’t lower the car (AZ roads are bad enough I don’t need to be closer to them). The trumpets are sized so that there is about a 2-3 inch gap between them and the exhaust so it’s unlikely for them to be melted. The air line from the tank to the solenoid is double wrapped with a protective covering that is a little spongy so there isn’t much chance of the tank legs cutting the air line from pressure, also it’s a bad angle so the line only looks like it’s in a bad situation. The tank is held by bolts on two of the leg holes and 3 thick zip ties that are there to keep the bounce to a minimum so there isn’t too much stress on the ties.

There are two of the metal bars you see against the spare tire wheel well they are attached to the tow adapters which I wasn’t using anyways, the second one (further from the rear bumper) is used to keep the trumpets and tank from sagging and bouncing around while driving and they work quite well. Also the bit hanging down from the tank is a quick release adapter so I can air up my tires quick without another air compressor, on a full tank I can top off all 4 tires or fill up 1 and 3/4 before the compressor needs to run.

As for the PA I’m either going to disconnect the switch for the sirens and just have a PA or I’ll wire the sirens up to the car alarm so if anyone steals my car they’ll get arrested for impersonating a police officer and car theft. :smiley: 'Cause you better be butter if you’re going to touch my toast.

Welcome to the forum, nice write up mate:)

Thanks, great place, I’m hoping to leave a mark here with a decent install guide for Scion xB’s, at least 2nd Gens I don’t know about the 3rd gens if they are the same underneath or not. I know I sure could have used a good guide when I was starting out. When I get the chance to get under my car during the day, I’ll take some better pictures. I’ll gather everything up and post it all in the Installs section.