pvc horn not loud

ok so i just finished 5 pvc horns and hooked them all up to a 3/4" pvc manifold about 8" long.the 5 horns have a 3/8"id hose adapter at the manifold and a 1/2" hose adapter at the horn.i am running a 3/8" hose from my solenoid to the manifold, the problem is at 100psi the hons are not getting enough air pressure and aren’t loud at all, if i run them 1 by 1 they sound great. what i wanted to know is how i can make them work together as well as they do individually. should i switch everything to 1/4"id or do i need a bigger manifold. i dont want to change my solenoid and want to use as little air as possible.

pic of horn, the hose adapter if for sprinklers, i have about 50 in my back shed and wanted to use them to save money but will switch to 1/4 if needed.

There isn’t a lot of data/experience out there for the PVC horns but, the general principle is the same. If they sound good individually & not as a set, they’re not getting enough air. Some part of your system is a restriction. So putting smaller fittings on the horn won’t help.

Is you’re solenoid valve 1/2"?

no my solenoid is 1/4" i changed some parts today and it is slightly better, but i’m gonna have to switch to a 1/2" or bigger solenoid.just to be sure im gonna run a 5/8" hose directly from my tank to my horns via a ball valve and if it works then i’ll get a bigger solenoid.
my solenoid
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390218411693&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWNX:IT

edit to add
i also have a regulator on my tank and my solenoid on the regulator,if the regulator is 1/4 do i have to switch that to 1/2 as well or will it restrict airflow too much.http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xh9/R-100082550/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

i think you small solenoid is the problem and yea you need a bigger regulator because if you switch the valve then the regulator will be starving the valve.

You have to get more air to the manifold. Larger solenoid and larger line.

yeah i tested it from my tank to the manifold with 1/2" line and ball valve and it was very loud, so im gonna get a 1/2" reg. and solenoid.

Im wanting to build some of these for my boys and friend to take to ball games. Plan to do a few for my car also. Ive seen they dont take much air to make noise.

Im guessing they are really simple to build?

they are quite simple to make, i can make them from memory and each horn takes less than 10 minutes if you have all the tools and they are cheap too.

only problem with the horns are, although they need little air to work they need a lot of air to be loud.i have a 5 gal tank and with the air regulated to 70psi it drains the tank from 150psi to 70psi in 3-4seconds.

So are you more satisfied than your original post?
Did you get the bigger solenoid & regulator? 1/2"?

i am alot happier than my op.got the 1/2reg. and solenoid and now these horns scream at 70 psi. i can push them to 100-110psi but it doesn’t increase the sound that much plus i broke a diaphragm at 120psi.

i compared these to a friends outlaw 3000 and these were much much louder, i will most likely get real train horns one day but not soon because these horn do the job just fine.

Cool cool.

wow what you bulit the diaphrams out of??. plastic or metal? i replaced the ones i had from plastic to aluminum out of beer cans. and they sound great!!.. but they wer quad horns from ebay. they sound ok. this was long time ago. i now have two sets of shockers from hornblasters.com

the diaphragms are aluminium flashing from home depo.

Let’s see some pics! Are they based off that guy on eBay’s plans that he sells for like $ 15? Im so curious.

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I was wondering if you could post how to make the horns from PVC. I would love to try to make one in my spare time. I know you can buy the plans on ebay, but I have always thought that people selling plans on ebay was a ripoff.

lets see some pics!

fatphatboy88- i think it would be wrong to show you how to make them, the guy put alot of work into the plans and they are not that expensive.

i will post some pics. later today or tomorrow, its been snowing at my house nonstop for the last 12 hours.

and yes i used his plans to make then but i did a few mods of my own, made them easier to build and less parts but same performance.

Do you mind emailing me a simple parts list on these i want to give it a try…im thinkin on goin through town and scarin the crap out of people

@trainhornbuilder -

Dude, it’s worth the $15 bucks for the book and you get the youtube vids with it. The videos are a big help. I got it shipped in like 3 days.