Tank size

OK, I’m a newb here. I have a Viair 400C, and a nicely rebuilt Leslie Supertyfon RS-3L for my F350. I gave my 2.5 gallon tank to my brother, so that he can run dual 2.5 gall tanks for his K3LA.

I was thinking of running a 12 gallon tank, since I have the room under the truck, @ 150psi, with a 1/2" feed to the RS-3L.

Is there any reason not to run such a big tank? The horn could be ‘ON’ just like a train, no? for a nice long duration. AND It would be nice for filling 40" tires, too, after going in the sand at 15psi.

12 gallon is great with dual 480c or 1 oasis… and i think that you will be able to fill tires too…

you really need 3 viair compressors for 12 gallons.

You got your point across via Rule 14L. 12 gallons = not much compared to a real train.

Thanks for the input, I’m starting to see where I should go with this.

The Viair 400C would take approximately 12 minutes to fill the 12 gallon tank to 145 psi, so two 400C’s would half the time required to about 6 minutes. It’s on a loud diesel, so noise isn’t a prob. I guess two 400C’s will be better, just as the full 12 gallon tank is better than a 2.5 or 5 gallon.

I run 2 Viair 450C compressors to fill my ten gallon tank. From what I have been told, you should run 1 compressor per five gallons. So I would suggest two compressors with what you have. And I also have a rs-3l, and they are air hungry horns as you probably know. For me, ten gallons is perfect.

Thanks for the verification of 2 compressors. Since I have the room for a 12 gallon, why not? Izzy, Did you get your RS-3L’s rebuilt or did you do it?

I have a RS-3-LR and a RS-5-T-RRO and the RS3L wasn’t in working order when I got it, I had to restore it myself…

Here’s the day I got it, in the process of stripping the paint…

Then I painted them gloss black lol…

And now they look like this as of last month (with the new high manifold)…

Even restored the tag! (repainted the black parts by hand)

Sorry for threadjacking… if ya got any questions about workin on a Leslie, let us know!

wow awesome job there “hondaguy”

Nice Job on the Leslie’s :smiley:

Thanks guys

Sorry for the delayed response. I actually have not done anything to it. I bought it in really nice shape. Is yours needing some work?

Izzy, thanks for the info.

hondayguy (I’m very impressed with your horns, very clean job!),

Where did you get the internal parts for the rebuild?

My RS-3L came pretty clean, they had been taken apart and cleaned, then put back together by the original owner; not a real rebuilding job, though. I pulled them apart after reading a few threads about it, being very careful. Most everything looked good, except for one of the diaphrams had a little tear in the silcon/rubber. I carefully added some military grade silicon to it and it appears good now.

In between the bell and rear chamber, there was also a rubber round gasket that is very old (on all three bells). This appeared pre-formed with some grooves in it. I cut my own rubber gasket from 1/8" black rubber, but I think it was too thick, because air is NOW leaking out of the paper gasket areas.

I have heard you can make new paper gaskets from a roll of gasket material. I am familiar with the cork gasketing for trucks/cars, but haven’t seen the paper gasketing material anywhere, but I haven’t really looked for it.

I just read on some other forums, that one should use a manual valve such as a Graham-White or Vilco, to make the RS-3L sound better. My friend at Viair told me to use an SMC automatic valve. The automatic SMC valve can go right next to the horn (good), whereas a manual switch has to be close to the driver, plus the length:(…etc etc.

I’m just trying to get more info from those who know ( and have walked the path before me) before I do anything stupid.

I like the present dirty-ish look they have, because they will blend-in with the bottom of my F350. If they are clean and shiny, they will stand out and may disappear (get stolen). Getting under this 12" lifted beast w/40" tires is pretty easy.

ANd after looking at my undercarriage, it appears a set of two 5 or 8 gallon tanks will be best. I can’t really find a good spot for the 4 foot long 12 gallon tank.

You can get some new rubber cushion rings from Tom Aker, his email is taaker@infionline.net (these are the 3 between the bell and power chamber). You are correct, if you don’t have the right size, it can leak so it’s best to go with new ones. The old ones that came in my horn were black and horrible, the newer ones are reddish pink and seem to hold their shape a lot longer.

I got my gasket roll from O’reillys so I’m assuming you can get it from any parts store. Also, I wouldn’t mount the valve near the horn. I would probably put the valve on the tank and use a little line between the two. Leslie’s HATE solenoid style valves. That’s why they aren’t around too much anymore on trains. The electric valves screw them up. So yeah, if you decide to go with an electric, be sure to leave some line in between (I’ve heard this helps). If you want a Graham White, I’ve got a spare around here somewhere that I could part with.

Got any pics of the horn? I’d love to check it out if you do.

hondaguy,

thank you very much for your input. I found Tom’s phone number on hornwhistleboard.com moments ago. I’ll email him now. The rubber cushion rings were nice/soft/pink, just very worn & torn. The rubber on the diaphragms were also nice/soft/pink, just torn in one spot on one of them. Probably be good to change them all. We have Kragen/Oreilly’s here in Socal, so I’ll get some gasket material there.

http://www.emctempest.com/RS3L.jpg

I’ve reversed the center bell so that they are all facing the same direction.

Nice!

Tom Aker is the MAN!!!..he only sells what used horns so its not really a rival…and hornblasters dont sell Leslie Products…so it shouldnt matter…

about the tank size…on a F250.the biggest size i could fit under the truck was a 9 gal tank

KingRanchSteve,
I’m trying to figure out where to put two 8.5 gallon tanks right now. Since you stuck a 9’er under there, it gives me hope. I’m still waiting to buy. I haven’t really got under there and measured, but it seems that each 8.5gal could fit behind the rear quarter panel, in front of the axle/behind the cab (I have a LongBed SuperDuty so there’s a lot of room right there.) Getting the horn onto the truck is not a “super” priority right now. SO I’m getting all the info I need as I start planning and physically checking out locations under the truck. Tom contacted me; so I can now get the repair parts I need.

I am just curious is their some other reason other than time to fill, that a 12 gallon air tank needs more than on compressor to run ??? My 400 C take three minutes to fill 5 gallons, I would be happy with 6 minutes to fill ten gallons.

Now that I have a horn I am wanting more air, ait tank are somewhat cheap compaired to compressors.

Joe

yes there is a reason… it for one will void any warranty you have on the compressor.

it will strain the compressor which can cause it to burn up and stop working.

it would be like putting a 4 cyl. motor in a monster truck… it just wont do it…

1 compressor per 5 gallon tank MAX